Remove Recessed Lights

Remove Recessed Lights and Install Something Else

Dear Mr. Electrician:  How do I remove recessed lights so I can install surface-mounted light fixtures?

Answer: The photos below are from a job where I was able to remove recessed lights and replace them with four LED disk lights in their place.  I had to patch the holes before installing the new lights.

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REMOVE RECESSED LIGHTS

In this instance, the recessed lights to be removed were the remodel-type cans which made it much easier to take out.  It was just a matter of removing the trim and light bulb and loosening the clips holding the can to the ceiling.

Removing the rough-in housings would have been more work if the recessed lights had been installed during the original construction.  I would have had to remove the four screws holding the can in place and let it drop below the ceiling.

Through the ceiling opening, I could access the junction box for the light and disconnect the wiring.

After that, it is a matter of prying and cutting the recessed light rough-in housing out of the ceiling.  I use tools such as a mini pry bar, Knipex high-leverage diagonal pliers, BX cutters, and aviation snips to cut the old housing out of the ceiling.

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Once occupied by a recessed light, a ceiling fan brace was installed inside a hole.
Once occupied by a recessed light, a ceiling fan brace was installed inside a hole.

Ceiling fan braces were used because they were easiest to install using the existing hole.

I inserted two pieces of wood above the ceiling and held them in place with drywall screws. (See top photo) The wood is used to provide a backing for the drywall rings and to screw them in place.

I used my RotoZip with the circle-cutting attachment and made five rings (One extra) from a piece of drywall.

A cut drywall ring loosely fitted for size before being mudded in
A cut drywall ring loosely fitted for size before being mudded in.

The cut drywall rings fit well in the holes left from the removed recessed lights.

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A drywall ring mudded in a recessed light hole with a fan rated ceiling electrical box
A drywall ring mudded in a recessed light hole with a fan-rated ceiling electrical box.

I buttered the hole and the edges of the cut drywall ring with joint compound and pushed it into place.  I used my fingers to smear the joint compound so it would blend a little with the textured ceiling.

Drywall ring set in place to fill recessed light hole and surrounds the new ceiling fan box
The drywall ring is set in place to fill the recessed light hole and surrounds the new ceiling fan box.

The joint compound dried nicely around the ceiling fan electrical box after removing the recessed light.


An LED disk light connected to the ceiling box wires and hanging by the connections
An LED disk light connected to the ceiling box wires and hanging by the connections.

A plastic round remodel electrical box for ceilings is usually not rated for supporting a ceiling light.  However, at least one manufacturer has a fan-rated plastic round box for new work or remodeling.

Check the catalog on the manufacturer’s website to confirm what the ceiling electrical box is rated for.

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A single LED disk light mounted on the textured ceiling
A single LED disk light is mounted on the textured ceiling.
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The LED disk light was big enough to cover the hole patch.  The ceiling was going to be painted after I finished removing the recessed lights.

Four LED disk lights brightly lit
Four LED disk lights are brightly lit.

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